From: ruthypops2001@yahoo.com
my name is ruth and i'm 21 years old i think that the monkees should be very proud of themselves they produced a tv show and music that decades later is still attracting and inspirring (soz about the spelling!) young people. i am going to see them in concert and i'm so excited the monkees should be very proud of themselves
From: "TO USED"
since some of us may have been in a position similar to yours...can you just share which monkee it was and what he did after the hook up that let you down so much? did he not give you a way to contact him and express interest in seeing you again?
From: ruthypops2001@yahoo.com
my name is ruth and i'm 21 years old i think that the monkees should be very proud of themselves they produced a tv show and music that decades later is still attracting and inspirring (soz about the spelling!) young people. i am going to see them in concert and i'm so excited the monkees should be very proud of themselves
From: Estrella
Not a joke necessarily. The episode seem to be devoted to marijuana from Frodis the pot plant to people staring at their tv sets.
From: Estrella
"Dedicated few"? Sorry, but to expect every fan to be obsessed about The Monkees, and expect them to talk periodically forever about The Monkees in a serious manner is a bit much. Even the guys themselves are fair-weather Monkees ...
From: Illinois
Ok, here is what the Monkees should do next year. First, set up a six month tour. Next, get Mike Nesmith to tour. Even if you have to pay him twice as much as the three Monkees combined, get Nesmith. Then, do a TV special with Nez writing and directing, but maybe a TV variety show with the Monkees, Natural, Boy Village, etc. performing. Then, finish the year with an album, a new CD written mostly by Nesmith with some help from the other guys. I think this would make 2002 the BIGGEST year of the Monkees career.
From: Estrella
I think it should be an album they feel good about doing. The producer should be one who is willing to try to find the guy's strengths and weaknesses vocally, and work with that; updating The Monkees sound isn't good enough. No "We wanna be like Uncle Kracker or Kid Rock or SmashMouth".
Since they're recording in September or October and expect the album to be out before Christmas, getting the best sound would involve session musicians. If they want to write some of the songs, those songs should be picked because it seems like a good song to put on the album not because they wish to have a let one song written by a Monkee on the album.
From: Dan
Hee hee...uh, yeah. If this DOES happen, well...don't get too comfortable, 'cause the alarm clock will go off and put and end to it real quickly.
From: Chris Coyle
Not sure about pictured Mike and Micky smoking,can't think of any off hand, but Peter and Davy sure did. In fact I think Davy has been pictured the most smoking (shocking huh?) don't forget all the dope they smoked... it was the 60's man!
As for The Beatles, they were cool, so smoking became all so much more the in thing amoung teenagers. The ironic thing about that is when Capitol re-released "I Wanna Hold Your Hand" again as a single in 1984 to celebrate The Beatles 20th Anniversary arrival in America, they airbrushed the cigarette out of Paul's hand on the record sleeve.
Chris
From: Jan
Ah well, it was a nice thought, anyway. I'm glad I DIDN't hear it myself! LOL!
Yes, it was Brian White at Sunny 106.5 that screwed me so badly. I sent him a scathing email, and before it's over with, I may end up calling the station manager and complaining. Someone who lies like that has no business working with the public. I told him I was GLAD he didn't get the interview because he didn't deserve to share company with someone as nice as David!
It worked out well anyway. We got to speak to him in the parking lot....I would have been awful disappointed if I'd been backstage and he didn't even come out!
Jan
From: Rita
When I first started posting, I wanted to be anonymous...so I used the first name that popped into my head, "FunkyMonkee," which I later dropped. But anyway, I remember discussing Nez's "hopeless junk" remark about the Monkees songs. Just saw some of Mike's 80s videos for the first time this weekend, and well....although I liked them....but, you know, I couldn't help wondering how he could possibly call the Monkees songs "hopeless junk"....what do you think?
From: Mandi
That WOULD make a great fantasy year, but let's face it, mike's done with the monkees. Unless by some miracle of god he chances his mind. we can only dream.
But, we'll keep the dream alive!
later
mandi
From: Rita
....without you, I'm like a gumball with no gum...?
From: Jan
To the one who said her website was going to be destroyed.... If you'll go join Tripod, they have a mechanism where you can move your entire site, directories and all over to them, and not lose a thing. It's free, too....and they give you 50mgs of room.
Jan
From: Rita
My 13-year-old son, who isn't really a Monkees fan, saw me watching the video of Mike at the Britt. He made me laugh the way he said that's why Mike wasn't asked to go on tour....whew!...we won't tell anyone, Mike, just stay home, okay? Sorry! Just had to share that!
From: Mark J.
I'm not taking sides on this issue... It's good to hear that you're all for peace and anti-hate. (I'm totally against war and hate...) I am wondering though, why "davyhitmefirst" as your screen name? (I know the Peter reference -- it just seems a bit odd.)
From: Chris Coyle
Andrea,
Sorry you feel offended, I'm sure from Mark's intentions and I know from my post that was not what was meant to happen.
No one is saying you can't have any fun here. That is not the point. The point we were stressing, besides the fair weathered fans that I brought up, is that The Monkees are never taken seriously because of the teenyboppers they seem to attract every tour. There is nothing wrong with being a teenybopper or a new fan. I just find it somewhat frightening that a 15 year old girl or even a 20 year old young women would be interested in 50+ year old men. It is one thing to be into the series as a show, or the music, but to be a fanatic fan of a young age talking “First, Micky, Davy and Peter come out wearing conductor uniforms and do Midnight Train while a cute chimp "drives" a little plastic train around the stage.” Is a little disturbing. Bubba Slim, how old do you think these guys are now?
If you want to see a Monkees board run a muck check out this site.
http://www.themonkees.com/disc1_frm.htm
We all wonder why The Monkees have yet to make it into the Rock n Roll Hall Of Fame, or why radio didn’t play Justus, or maybe why The Monkees have to release a new live album at shows only. If we want The Monkees to start getting some serious respect I think we should take a look at what fandom means to each of us.
Love and Mercy
Chris
From: Still shaking my head...
My dear, you re-posted what I said, but didn't read it too well. What I said (and meant) was that I HOPED YOU WISED UP BEFORE you caught something that penicillin couldn't cure. I don't HOPE you catch it, for heaven's sake!
As for David being old enough to stop catting around and settle down, he's just gotten over a relationship. He's been married or serious with someone most of his life, and personally, I hope he's wise enough to avoid getting involved for a long time coming.
And the fact still remains that if you meet some guy, and ESPECIALLY someone like these guys, and have sex with them, then you should be smart enough to realize that you are a one night stand. If Davy wasn't Davy, but some, as you put it, senior citizen that you met in KMart, you wouldn't have given him the time of day. You scored a roll in the hay with Davy Jones (there's plenty who'd kill for the chance) and he scored sex with a pretty young girl. I would say it was a fair trade off. You won't get much sympathy from most of us.
From: Original in Commercial
The commercial I saw had the original. I heard the remake Saturday on the radio...wouldn't have, but I didn't choose the station in the office that day!
From:
Looks like we're both having trouble reading. Sorry I misunderstood your penicillin comment. I'd like to point out your errs, if I may. I never named names and I never named *acts* or details. You are assuming what happened. Used can mean many things. The other assumption you made that may or may not be correct is that I wouldn't give a Senior Citizen at Walmart the time of day. Don't judge me. Why is the man I referred to so easily forgiven for what he did, but you have inferred I'm a slutty groupie who wouldn't give a regular man the time of day? Maybe I DID naively think it would be more. Isn't that better than having No guilt and not caring... which is where I'm sure he's at. **********My dear, you re-posted what I said, but didn't read it too well. What I said (and meant) was that I HOPED YOU WISED UP BEFORE you caught something that penicillin couldn't cure. I don't HOPE you catch it, for heaven's sake!
As for David being old enough to stop catting around and settle down, he's just gotten over a relationship. He's been married or serious with someone most of his life, and personally, I hope he's wise enough to avoid getting involved for a long time coming.
And the fact still remains that if you meet some guy, and ESPECIALLY someone like these guys, and have sex with them, then you should be smart enough to realize that you are a one night stand. If Davy wasn't Davy, but some, as you put it, senior citizen that you met in KMart, you wouldn't have given him the time of day. You scored a roll in the hay with Davy Jones (there's plenty who'd kill for the chance) and he scored sex with a pretty young girl. I would say it was a fair trade off. You won't get much sympathy from most of us.
From: Chris Coyle
Glad you liked Mike's video work. Now you have to go check out the films he's been involved with "Repo Man" and "Tape Heads".
As for the hopeless junk line, I suspect the teenybopper image was getting at Mike and he needed a cool line to shoot off to the press. The same reason I think he spent all his Monkee money cause he deemed it "dirty money".
Chris
From: Julianna Michelle
My goodness I was going to say!!!!!! Thanks for clearing up that you're 19, not 10, because I was really creeped out...
Peace
From: Leigh Angela
I put my subject in the From line!!
From: Lacey
It would be awesome if Mike would hook back up with the other guys and have one more kick-ass tour but... I wouldn't hold my breath. Mike has worked too long and hard developing his own identity as Michael Nesmith to go back to "Monkee Mike". Well, just look at how he ditched the last U.S. tour after Europe. So much for wishful thinking.
ps...(confidential to Juliana Michelle)...i didn't want the drummer, I would have rather had Slim :) (dirty!!)
From: john
Looks like I had a busy weekend and missed some good debate! I read your post fist mark and then went back and read Bubba's. I thought for sure he was joking. Wow. Well, maybe we could just tell him we think that is a very silly and degrading idea, but refrain from suggesting that some folks should stay off the board. I agree with you that this board generally has good debate and excellent contributors. I have't read everything yet so if I missed a point I apologize.
From:
Looks like we're both having trouble reading. Sorry I misunderstood your penicillin comment. I'd like to point out your errs, if I may. I never named names and I never named *acts* or details. You are assuming what happened. Used can mean many things in many ways. The other assumption you made that may or may not be correct is that I wouldn't give a Senior Citizen at Walmart the time of day. Don't judge me. Why is the man I referred to so easily forgiven for what he did, but you have inferred I'm a slutty groupie throwing myself at Rock Stars who wouldn't give a regular man the time of day? Maybe I DID naively think it would be more. Isn't that better than having No guilt and not caring... which is where I'm sure he's at. A fair trade off??? Never. **********My dear, you re-posted what I said, but didn't read it too well. What I said (and meant) was that I HOPED YOU WISED UP BEFORE you caught something that penicillin couldn't cure. I don't HOPE you catch it, for heaven's sake!
As for David being old enough to stop catting around and settle down, he's just gotten over a relationship. He's been married or serious with someone most of his life, and personally, I hope he's wise enough to avoid getting involved for a long time coming.
And the fact still remains that if you meet some guy, and ESPECIALLY someone like these guys, and have sex with them, then you should be smart enough to realize that you are a one night stand. If Davy wasn't Davy, but some, as you put it, senior citizen that you met in KMart, you wouldn't have given him the time of day. You scored a roll in the hay with Davy Jones (there's plenty who'd kill for the chance) and he scored sex with a pretty young girl. I would say it was a fair trade off. You won't get much sympathy from most of us.
From: John
Seriously, I consider that a compliment because those guys know way more about the Monkees than me. I am going to stay out of this debate but I agree that there is enough room for everybody here and plent of Monkeelove. (Hell, I don't even own a disc version of PCA&J!)
From: Tammy
I have heard rumors that one of the Monkees knows SL. Someone told me it was Mike and that he has a deaf daughter. Someone else said it was Peter. I was wondering because I have a deaf cousin who loves the Monkees. He started watching them while he was at my house and soon he started asking me to put them on before he even said hi to me. The past few weeks he has been borrowing some of my videos and watching them over and over again at his house. Right now he desperately wants to go to a concert with us! Gleeb, Tammy
From: Deb8998
Hi all, just checking some monkee stuff out and thought i would drop in here and say hello. what did everyone think of the early show performance today? Deb
From: Tammy
Is anyone going to the Westbury concerts next week? I can't wait. My "MonkeeBuddies" (my mom and our friend Bunny) took the dork stick thing to extremes! Right now there is a whole box of glow stuff in my living room, including handheld blacklights and hairgel that reacts to it!! 3 of everything of course. We want to be noticed if it kills us!! Gleeb, Tammy
From: **Ashley**
I loved it - especially Peter saying how he didn't wanna hear Micky's vulcan thing again. =) I just wish they woulda showed more of the concert... maybe Peter singing someting...
Peace n Gleeb
From: Stacey
Frodis was Micky's word for marijuana just like Gleeb was his word for love
but I still wanna know if there's anything to this Glick person!
From: **Ashley**
They recorded it for Shrek I think... so did Eddie Murphy.
Peace n Gleeb
From: head shaker
Well, if you DIDN'T mean Davy, then excuse the error. What I said still holds, though. And I'm not excusing them because they don't need excusing. They do what every other unattached male in the world does....hit on women and try to score. If you sleep with a man you hardly know (I'm trying to NOT get too bad with the language here) then the man usually drops you. It's the universal way of things. If you want a man to respect you, you keep your clothes on for a reasonable number of encounters.
They aren't much different than the average man in a bar looking to pickup somebody. The same rules apply. It's just with them, the women offer it first.
And if you are thirty years old (or twenty or whatever) and you routinely sleep with 55 year old men instead of ones your own age....well, that's your choice, but I'm willing to bet it's not the case. I don't consider 55 a senior citizen, myself, either....those were YOUR words.
Besides, these guys may be 50-something, but they look and act 40-something, and they have been idolized for years.
You should know better if you are truly 30 years old. Your judgement sounds more like that of a mis-guided teenager looking for love and attention.
This subject has had enough discussion, as far as I'm concerned.
From: Jennie
Here's another question for anyone who's seen the merchandise on the leg of the tour: What sizes are they selling the shirts in? Back in March, they were only selling Large and XLarge. Please tell me they've added Medium!!!
From: meranda
are they coming to sacramento? or anywhere close
From: sutton4943@aol.com
I'll be at Sterling Heights.
From: ruthy
I'm not a grouie and i don't spend my time dollowing famous blokes around cause there famous just to sleep with them but davy jones is davy jones i'm not saying its right for a bloke to sleep with u and dump u but thats what u should expect it dosn't take much to work out that thats what will happen if u sleep with one of them (keep in mind i'm not a groupie) it would be a complete dream 4 me to get that close to davy he is my idol and i adore him so i don't feel any pain 4 u infact i'm quite jelous and hope i can only be so lucky when i go to the monkees gig!
From: **Ashley**
Headquarters... most of my fave songs are on it! (You Just May Be The One, RSG, For Pete's Sake...) I love Justus too.
Peace n Gleeb
From: Loreli
yea, lol, someone got that for me and i went back to correct it, hehehe, when i get passionate typing, my language gets horrible, you see all the mistakes i made, hehehehe
From: **Ashley**
::waves:: Me! I'll be there! Row QQ baby! Hehe... the more letters the closer you are...
Peace n Gleeb and criped ppl don't take things so seriously!
From: Pam
This is to the girl that calls herself "another throwaway". If you are willing to go that extra mile the first time you meet ANY guy, don't you think he's gonna think you're a slut? Why would he call you then? He already got what he wanted and there are plenty more where that came from.
From: **Ashley**
::waves:: Me! I'll be there! Row QQ baby! Hehe... the more letters the closer you are...
Peace n Gleeb and cripes ppl don't take things so seriously!
From:
I hope to God that they decide to come back next year. I think they do need a new album and TV special. Even if Nez doesn't come, this would be a treat!
From: **Ashley**
You know I'm there! That's row... 17 I think.
Peace n Gleeb
From: mbperson
at the meet and greet there was a lady searching for "the guy that was supposed to do the interview".....thats so lame he didnt show!!
From: suzyque
I'll pray for your recovery.....good luck!
From: Rocker
How good were the Monkees at playing their instruments? I'd like to read a few of your responses before I opine.
From: ~Eva~
i got row QQ, btu thats just cuz im hype like that, aighty I will see ya'll in 11(including toda) days baybee!
From: Can I ask "used girl"?
To the girl who had this experience...
was it with davy or one of the other guys? tell me what happened with after your encounter? He left you w/o any way to contact him...or..?
From: ~Eva~
i got row QQ, but thats just cuz im hype like that, aighty I will see ya'll in 11(including today) days baybee!
From: Loreli
i only saw the monkees once so far and i think they are great! peter plats his banjo, guitar and the keyboards wonderfully....micky does drums and guitar and that drub that i cant think of the name od (tom tom?) and davy plays the tambouring (its true folks! thr guitar!)hehehe, and i think they are great! have you been to a concert yet? i just wanna say, dont make an opinion yet till you hear them live....but i will tell you ..they rock!
From: Teresa in Texas
Just a couple of suggestions:
You Told Me--Dwight Yoakum
Papa Gene's Blues--The Everly Brothers (they still perform sometimes, don't they?)
Goin'Down--either Barenaked Ladies or the Manhattan Transfer
And for a "real" fantasy--if Nat King Cole were still living, I'd LOVE to hear him do "Sometime in the Morning," a couple of octaves lower--wouldn't that be just beautiful? I've tried to think of something Sinatra could have done, but can't.
From: Anthony
Hey Hey all you Monkee fans!!!
I have some great news I got right from David Fishof in response to my email!!!
I asked him if the guys were going to record a new album and he said "yes they're doing a record."!!!!!
Also, I asked if the August tour is going to happen and he said "yes august is happening."!!!
Last, and most important...I asked if this was really their "Final Tour" he said "no it's not the final tour they decided to stay together."!!!
I can't believe all this!!! I almost had a heart attack when I recieved this!!!
(I'll try to get some more information soon! If you have a reasonable question email me (adf@themonkees.zzn.com)I'll ask him.)
Check out my site too: http://www.monkeesrule43.homestead.com/monkeesrule43.html
From: Jennie
Speaking of Mike on the tour, did anyone see the Early Show today? I thought they handled the "Where's Mike?" question very well. :)
From: Loreli
i agree pam, i know i sound like a blind fan, but hey, i AM a blind fan....i honestly don''t know how you think the girl thought she was "special" or ment something after onlu ONE experience! even i know that is not possible...i think if ya kept your clothes on you might have gotten more respect from him.
From: Teresa in Texas
"Classic Pop" is what the Monkees need--like their songlist that has survived over 30 years and still sounds fresh! Maybe they should contact the people who wrote songs for them in the past--Neil Diamond, Neil Sedaka, Carole King (is Gerry Goffin still alive?), Ellie Greenwich, Jeff Barry, John Stewart, I think Paul Williams is no longer with us. Surely these people have some great unfinished songs lurking in their attics that they can dig up and redo and refresh and give to the Monkees to record.
From: Loreli
hi, i agree with you...the monkees are 'the Monkees' and the girls go wild and throught themselves at the guys..but if they were normal and un famous, we probably wouldn't give them the time of day....so i think it was a fair trade of...scoring a monkee and scoring a prety lady....and for the 'used' girl who said some where in here that they get off scott free and she gets called a slut...i am not saying it is ok, but posting these things against the monkees in this site, or any pro monkee board is bound to get you into trouble..though i understand that you are trying to protect people here. but unfortunatly for some(like me) it doesn't matter. no matter who it was or what happened you were used, but it goes both ways. no one was a 'victim' in this situation...but that is only my opinion..thank you for your time
From: Jennie
I know what you mean Stacey, about people singing the theme song when they find out you're a Monkees fan. That's so annoying...and everyone that does it thinks they're being so original. Then I say, "Yeah, I've only heard that about ten times today!" and they have the nerve to get offended because I don't praise them for their vast knowledge, which was clearly displayed by the fact that they know the theme song (HEAVY SARCASM!). And since you're young, I'm sure you also get the "Oh my god, aren't they like 50 years old!" reaction from people...that's another one that bugs me. Okay, I'm done venting my frustrations now! :)
From: John
I like this one.
I admire all of them for making HQ and giving it thier best shot. Remember that when they started, instruments were not supposed to be part of the deal. I think Mike's HQ and Pisces guitar work was as good as any done by John Lennon a few years earlier. I don't think he rivals Harrison at a comperable period ( when the Beatles were just starting.)
I think Tork's keyboards were as good as any average studio musician of the period, but not a master.I would say his playing was as good as John or Pauls piano work on the Beatles albums (The stuff that was not done by George martin and Billy preston.) His banjo was closer to excellence. His bass playing during the live shows was as good McCartney's during a comparable period. See Sunny girlfriend. Tork's lead guitar parts during this tour have been excellent.
I love Micky but he was a poor drummer during HQ. But he did very well if you consider that he was not a drummer and had to learn. His drumming has vastly improved, see JUSTUS.
Davy was just an OK precussionist. Listen to his Tamborine and Maraca parts in HQ, they are sloppy. That being said, I have tried to play both of those precussion instruments and IT IS HARD! Those who laugh at the tambourine have no idea how hard it is to play one in time for the length of an entire song. This may sound funny, but Davy's Tam & Maraca playing during this tour shows that he has become very good at these often ridiculed instruments.
So on the whole, if you compare the Early Beatles to the HQ Monkees, and make the Beatles a 10, the Monkees were IMHO a 6.
From: Rocker
Hello Ruthy! Those are good points you made. I often wonder how people would have reacted if the first two albums had listed the names of the session musicians instead of crediting the Monkees with the guitars and drums. A lot of fans felt mislead when Mike spilled the beans. (Was it Mike who told the press the truth?) What would have been wrong with letting Mike and Peter play guitars along with the session musicians? Then there wouldn't have been this huge revelation later on that has dogged the group ever since. I guess they did something right because a lot of great hits were made. What do you all think?
From: Julianna Michelle
DHMF, Alright, I understand if you must go. But if there is anyway I can talk you out of it, please let me know. :o) Just promise you won't go away forever and you come back every now and again to share your insight with me and those who appreciate it. Because we really do. Peace, take care, babe. Amanda
From: Jennie
For some reason I think I remember seeing a picture of Micky with a cigarett in his mouth...I'll have to think about where I might have spotted that...
From: someone out there that understands
I just have one question for you. Did this happen backstage or on the bus? In the old days the men used to have their roadies bring women into their dressing rooms. We know these men are not sweet angels they are lonely on the road. They like the attention they are getting from the women. I guess it makes them feel young until you really get up close and look them in the eye. My advice to anyone out there if you plan on trying to get it on with one of the men just use some protection. They all are with so many different women and you never know what you can catch. Just be careful. Ms.used if you went all the way with one of the guys and you felt bad afterward then it had to be such a bad experience for you. These men are heart collectors.
From: Tammy
And during one of the Las Vegas concerts Davy compared himself to them. Gleeb, Tammy
From:
Or you can mail Fishof and ask him yourself. He responds to almost everyone.
From: Jennie
It seems to me that the Monkees took the punishment for everyone that was using session musicians for their recording. It wasn't just them doing it, but they were the only ones getting any heat for it. Time didn't really allow for them to play the music on their recordings at that time, anyway. I still don't think that is particularly the reason why they are so under-appreciated. I think that is mostly due to the stigma of being pre-fabricated for the show. I think people tend to forget the fact that the Monkees were actors hired to play in a tv show. People tend to think that the Monkees were put together by studio execs at a cattle-call audition to make a teen-pop sensation BAND. That was the result, but not the intent.
From: Estrella
Well, the closest so far is the August 19th gig at Bakersfield, California. Then there's probably another gig further south, in LA, on August 24th.
From: Teresa in Texas
Welcome, Lhc, My favorite--Pisces. Always will be.
From: jamie
That is so neat. They are really staying together? Yayah. That just made my day.
From:
Age limit?! Speaking as one of the younger fans, I really resent that. Just what would you consider too young to be a Monkee fan?
From: jamie
oh, ok...That episode makes so much more sense now.
From: Jennie
I almost fell outta my chair when I heard Micky use the George Clooney/ER doc ananolgy in place of the Leonard Nimoy/vulcan analogy...sigh...it's the end of an era! :)
From: I have seen this happen before and I do care
Dearused I want you to know you are not the only one out there that has felt used. The reality is that these men are on tour and are alone they are no different then many men in their positions. I am glad they are not getting into any serious relationships right now. Two of them have broken up with their relationships and I am sure was hard on both sides but it never stopped either of these men for dating many different women. My warning to any of the fans out there that by their own choice want to be with these men even if it is for 30 seconds or more if you are going to do anything sexually please have safe sex. They have been with many women and in this day and age you never know what you might catch. Its no different with any other Joe either. I do have a question for you ms. used. Did this happen to you on a bus or backstage? I would never ask you which Monkee because to me that should not be made public. I already have an idea who he is. I hope you are doing much better. I do think you have done a service by announcing what has happened to you and I am sure you learned a good lesson. Please remember there are people on this board that care.
From: Teresa in Texas
Finally the Early Show came through!! I'm glad they got to sing 2 songs completely! The comments they made about Mike were appropriate and they looked good, although a repair guy at my house said, "Is that Micky Dolenz?" I said, "yeah," and he said, "boy, he's put on a lot of weight," which I kind of ignored, 'cause I still adore Micky. And hey, at least Kelly Ripa knew something about the Monkees. What's Jane Clayson's problem? (she thought the Monkees came before the Beatles).
From: Estrella
This is probably going to bring some Nez bashers out of the woodwork, but as interesting an idea it is to see him get paid a whole load of dineros to tour, I think he might be too busy planning the 2002 Council on Ideas to even blink at the idea to tour in 2002.
From: Jennie
Wow, now that you mention it, I just had a flashback of a Davy solo show that I went to...while he was singing (can't remember which song) he broke in and said, "hey, I'm starting to sound like the Bee Gees" just because of the way he was singing at the moment, very Barry-esque. Hmmm...
From: cory
"Frodis" is a Monkee code-word for pot. The Frodis is a big marijuana plant that makes villians just want to "lay down in the class & be cool", the stoner character is seen walking out of "The Frodis Room" accompanied by hippie-dippy music, & - in a separate episode - "Legalize Frodis" is written on a chalboard (along with "Save The Texas Prarie Chicken").
From: Tammy
lol thats funny! It sounds like something they would have done on their tv show. Gleeb, Tammy
From: cory
This is one of the weirdest threads I've ever read, BUT getting back to the original question...
Cariat, your experiences ring true for me. Peter will bend over backwards for a fan; Micky is pleasant, but reserved; and, Davy, well, Davy signed my CD but never diverted his attention from the female fans that were in line before & after me. I don't think he was being lecherous or lascivious, he's just a teen idol & that's what he enjoys being: why spend time chatting music with a 30 year old guy when you could be making a teenage girl's heart throb.
From: John
Excellent pick Mark J. Thats my fav this week.
From: evyaggie
I will be going to the concert at Westbury on Mon 7/16 and I would love to meet mutual fans. I will probably be waiting in the back, by the bus, before the show starts in hopes that they'll appear. I went in March and although I didn't meet at that time, I LOVED the show!! I did get Davy & Micky's autographs when they did the taping for the CBS Early Morning Show-:) I am REALLY looking forward to ONE WEEK FROM TODAY!!!
From: Tammy
I was kind of glad he switched. That Vulcan thing was getting annoying. When he started talking i yelled at the tv "Don't say it!!". I thought the Early Show was never going to show the concert. Why did they wait so long? Gleeb, Tammy
From: Stacey
Funny you should mention the "legalize Frodis" and all that stuff on the chalk board-- I was noticing that just yesterday!
But my question still remains...any story at all behind Wizard Glick??
From: Mikell
This morming I was watching the "early show". (It was good ) But the best part was my 2 year old son and 3 year old niece singing to "Daydream Believer". It was so cute. Riley, my son, also likes "No Time" and "Gonna Buy Me a Dog". To hear a 2 year old sing with me in the car is just as great as the fact that my mom has loved them since the 60's, I've loved them since the 80's and now my son in the new millenium! Makes my day!! THANK YOU MONKEES!!!
From: Stacey
Yah, I'm prolly gonna have to agree with Dan on that one. And that would be neat if Michael decided to do something with them, but he is extrememly busy right now (as he always is)-at least to my knowledge... I mean, I've heard all kinds of things about novels and movies, and of course there's always Videoranch to take care of.
But even if Mike doesn't join up with the Monkees ever ever again, at least we can still enjoy him as an artist in himself and all alone...
*sigh*....beautiful Mike. :D
May the God of Peace bless you all!
From: Leigh Angela
Yes it's great you have all four autographs...I never get their autographs anymore because I just don't need any more, but I have yet to get Mike's.
Micky does love to flirt :-) Did a security guard give you guys the passes, or maybe a band member? Sometimes I feel bad when people get back stage just because of their looks, but many people get lucky and are given passes for many other reasons...I guess if it's meant to be it's meant to be.
From: Stacey
That's way cool that your cousin got all hooked on the Monkees! Right on :).
As for the SL thing, I've never heard that before so I'm of little use in that department.
Plus, I didn't think Mike even had a daughter- only boys...?
From: Leigh Angela
Stacey, you don't have to tell us WHO gave you the passes...wouldn't want to start anything. It's just interesting hearing the different ways people get them, like the one girl who was just jabbering away and was sitting next to the right person. I myself am offering a trade: anyone who can get me backstage at Crosby Stills and Nash, I will get a BS pass for the Monkees or Brian Wilson/Paul Simon, no joke. I know people who work for CSN, yet somehow my connections always seem to slip thru the cracks.
From: Mandi
I have to agree with you John on playing the tambourine in sync with the rest of the music.
When i was in seventh grade, i was the solo percussionist for my church's kids choir. This basically meant that i got to play the tambourine on the last processional song during mass.
And that was HARD! So, kudos go out to Davy for all his years of percussion work!
later
mandi
From: Leigh Angela
Stacey, you don't have to tell us WHO gave you the passes...wouldn't want to start anything. It's just interesting hearing the different ways people get them, like the one girl who was just jabbering away and was sitting next to the right person. I myself am offering a trade: anyone who can get me backstage at Crosby Stills and Nash, I will get a BS pass for the Monkees or Brian Wilson/Paul Simon, no joke. I know people who work for CSN, yet somehow my connections always seem to slip thru the cracks.
From: Stacey
I too have only seen one Monkees concert, but let me tell you, I think they're awsome!
Peter absolutely blows me away in anything he does. His guitar and bass skills are of course great. But then there is his banjo and keyboard skills...when he played his Back piece at the concert, I just stared...I didn't even breathe for fear that the sound of my own breath would taint the perfect sound i was hearing!! Maybe I'm melodramatic, but I seriously thought it was that good. And his banjo- of course -is just undescribably awsome.
Micky is grand as well. His drumming skills are very fine, and he's really good at the guitar as well. While his instrument playing doesn't exactly take my breath away in the same way Peter's does, his voice makes my heart skip MANY beats :o). (Like you wouldnt' believe!!!)
As for Davy, I think he does a good job too. I mean, his tambourine and maracas are just classic, and his guitar playing isn't too shabby either! Trust me, I was watching their hands on their guitars the ENTIRE time they were playing "Circle Sky" and they were jammin!!! Davy actually broke a string getting down on that song! It was cool :):).
Anyways, wow I didn't think I'd get into that so much, but I guess I did, eh?! My point is that I think they are all excellent musicicians :)
Peace
From:
Hi, check out this site if you were curious about the Monkees smoking habits: http://monkeelovebadboypics.homestead.com/one.html
From: Kestra
Greetings,
According to the info that i have collected, Mike has 3 boys<1965,1968,1969> and 1 girl<1970>
From: Rocker
Very true. I'm sure a lot of bands used session musicians then and still do to this day. The Monkees proved themselves very early on with "The Girl I Knew Somewhere", written and performed by the Monkees! Peter and Mike were very good musicians, Davy and Micky were great singers. A lot of people don't realize that.
From: Julianna Michelle
Stacey, you knew Mike had a daughter; Jessica. Because remember, they named her middle name...Buffler... I hope that's like, Phyllis's great grandmother's maiden name or something, because if it's not...poor girl! I've never heard that one of them knew sign language, but if they do, they are even more my hero! I dabbled in SL a bit, but the class got cancelled, so I never got very far.
Peace
From: mom
Thanks sweetie. They are great, huh? Nice way to start the morning. So happy we have the Monkee music and concert to share. Now we can add the kids!
From: Julianna Michelle
It is quite striking how similar they are! Rememeber that line from "Animal Crackers", "Hooray for Captain Spaulding!"? A bit like, "Hooray for Davy!" wouldn't you say? And all those little things the Monkees say that don't really contribute to the plot, those are so Marx-ish. Especially in "Monkees on the Wheel", like when Davy says that girl has a line and asks her, but she doesn't. Or in "Hitting the High Seas" when they keep correcting "crackers" to "crazy". I have a new found respect for all those seemingly nonsense lines... and Mike makes a killer Groucho!
Peace.
From: **Ashley**
Dude Weird Al singing YAG would be soooooooooooooooo hilarious!
From: Julianna Michelle
It is quite striking how similar they are! Rememeber that line from "Animal Crackers", "Hooray for Captain Spaulding!"? A bit like, "Hooray for Davy!" wouldn't you say? And all those little things the Monkees say that don't really contribute to the plot, those are so Marx-ish. Especially in "Monkees on the Wheel", like when Davy says that girl has a line and asks her, but she doesn't. Or in "Hitting the High Seas" when they keep correcting "crackers" to "crazy". I have a new found respect for all those seemingly nonsense lines... and Mike makes a killer Groucho!
Peace.
From: ~Sara*
Um yea I am in row QQ. GET OFF ME! yo if you take binoculars and then take pictures throught them, and it does work, the pictures actually come out quite nice, don't they eva? yes they do. anyway we movin up so get off of um me and ashley and eva and ashley. k see ya
From: Estrella
Mike has one daughter, Jessica, the youngest of all four. She sang back-up for her dad with Christian and Jason on the last song of Nez's album The Garden, so I don't think she's deaf.
From: john
I just found that funny. MAybe someone has already made this joke.
From: Andrea - BTW, get your free stuff at my site : )
Ok, I know I was in the hospital for a couple of weeks, but what happened? Did the board suddenly get taken over by the evil Wizard Glick and his cohorts? I can't believe all the non-Monkeeluv happening on this board : ( And where have the "oldbies" gone? Several of them left notes that they would be leaving and not returning. And others just vanished without a trace. I notice they are now posting on my site and on one of the other discussion boards, but hey! I don't get it. Dan, John, Estrella, DHMF, Ashley, Miss Blue Dork Stick, Tyme - are YOU guys are still around? Are we still Monkeebuddies? Anybody? Anybody?
I'm starting to feel like Micky in the eppy "Monstrous Monkee Mash" >>Where are you guys? Davy? Peter? Mick-uh-Mike? "Hey, hey I'm a Monkee..."<<
Disturbed in Bayonne, NJ... Andrea Check it out! The first contest has begun @ www.fanstuffonline.com
From: Tyme
I agree with that. I drives me insane when people act like the only songs they recorded were last train ect...
I always, always tell people that there are better songs than those. In fact, at my best friends graduation party I had the DJ play "Can You Dig it?" and "I'm a believer", no one danced to Can you dig it? except me and a guy friend, who got mad at me when I told him it was a Monkee song ("I can't believe I'm dancing to the Monkees"), but everyone was up and singing to I'm a Believer.....
Drives me insane...
From: Andrea - Monkeestock 7/14/01 or BUST!!! (long)
Hey Metalmaden. Sorry it took me a while to get back to ya. I've been locked up in the hospital for a couple of weeks, and it's taken me some time to get through all these posts!
I'd have to say my fave eppy is usually whatever happens to be playing at the moment. I really get a kick out of the show, and it would be easier for me to say my least faves, which would be Monkees at the Circus and Captain Crocodile. I could do without those two. The other 56 eppies are my favorites. Is that a cop-out?
Lucky you, you're out of Bayonne, the armpit of armpits. I thought Jersey stunk in general, but I grew up in Central Jersey. Moved up here when I went to college and now I'm married to a Jersey City boy, so I guess I'm stuck here in this toxic waste dump located conveniently at exit 14A on the NJ Turnpike. Any tips on how to get the heck outta here? Maybe not as far as Texas, but New Brunswick would be nice.
Back to the original topic, I agree BIG TIME about She Hangs Out. Davy rocks that song, and he shows how much he loves it with the energy he puts forth during performances. Always a top "Davy dancin'" tune!
Peace, Gleeb, and Monkeestock forever! ~Andrea www.fanstuffonline.com
From: cory
Jennie, I missed it! How did they respond?
From: Sock it to me
They left for greener pastures.. last post I read they were accused of being closet gays and the posts were about crap like who would make the best couples within the group.
Hey Andrea..didn't you say so not so nice things the last time you posted?
From: Miss Blue Dork Stick
I am soo glad that Micky used an analogy that fits well today. You never know, maybe there are actually people out there that have no idea who Leonard Nemoy is or what a vucan is. But it is sad to see such a much over used joke go.
Good concert though!
Peace Gleeb and Blue Dork Sticks Christi
From: Leigh Angela
I work at a large professional dinner theatre, and one of the principal actors in our last show was deaf. She sang and danced, even had a solo, don't know how but she did it!
From: cory
1. PAC&J
2. HEAD
3. HEADQUARTERS
From: Andrea - Monkeestock 7/14/01 or BUST!!!
Yes, it's true. The last post I put up before I went into the hospital was not as lighthearted as I usually am, but that was a retort to some really hurtful comments aimed at me and the other silly members of the board. I can accept that. I just can't believe someone like Monkeescott was driven out of here. The poor man had people praying for his Grandson, and next think you know he's decided not to return to our board.
Like I've said before, I enjoy being a part of this community. I wish I could've done something to prevent all these people from leaving, but what's done is done. All I'm saying is, why did it have to come to this? Shouldn't there be room for conflicting ideas on this board? If we all agreed on exactly how to be a fan and which songs to like and whether or not a 59 year old man can be considered sexy to a teenager, the world would be a boring place. But let's not beat each other up about it. As Davy has said, "This is not brain surgery folks, it's The Monkees."
Brad, I'd love for you to comment eventually on what's happening with your board. Perhaps a moderator or two would be helpful. I know a few people who would be willing to take that job! I would hate to have this board censored, but if common sense is not the rule of thumb, somebody should lay down a few ground rules. Too many people's feelings are getting hurt! It's just so easy to attack someone when they are just a name, and they're somewhere out in cyberspace.
And just an aside to Sock It To Me, I'm surprised (and just a little bit humbled) that you remember my last post at all. Is that the name you usually go by? If so, welcome to this crazy board - because I don't remember seeing you around before. Forgive me if I'm wrong...
Still love this place, Andrea www.fanstuffonline.com
From: Miss Blue Dork Stick
Thats row 17. The funny thing is that is goes from roww AA-UU. Then it starts the regular alphabet. I may be a hoosier and not from Michigan but here in Indiana, the alphabet goes to Z. Am I correct?? LOL
See ya at the show! Peace Gleeb and Blue Dork Sticks Christi
From: Jennie
No kidding!!! I just got back from vacation and this place is completely different. I'm having a terrible time trying to figure out what happened while I was gone, because the board is so whacked out.
From: Miss Blue Dork Stick
I am totally agreeing with you. I have been a Monkees fan since I was 6. I met my best friend in 3rd grade and I think we hit it off because we were both BIG Monkees fans. I don't think the popularity is there only because they are touring. I will admit that that may be the case with some, but since my parents always listened to the oldies, and liked the guys, that in turn made me the fan that I am today. I say be proud and support the Monkees and just laugh at all those silly little comments people make about them.
Christi
From: Teresa in Texas
Hi, guys, Just got back from New Mexico. Didn't see Nez or MMM. Oh well, had a great time where it's cool. I wanted to let you know about an article I saw in the Dallas Morning News today. A sports writer starts out trying to debunk several myths (like George Washington and the cherry tree), but then he goes on to say that "several members of the Monkees had no musical aptitude whatsoever." WELL, that got me mad enough to e-mail this guy and set him straight on each member's musical abilities. If any of you would like to see this article, it's at: http://www.dallasnews.com/sports_day/highschools/sherrington/414729_10sherrington.html and you can e-mail him at ksherrington@dallasnews.com. Hopefully I did my part to set him straight. I'll try to finish reading all this board and join in when I can. Teresa!
From: Miss Blue Dork Stick
I was going through some of my Monkees shows that have been taped throughout the years and was watching The Rosie O Donnell show last night. I believe the guys were on in 96. ON that show, Rosie asked where Mike was and they said he was in LA getting Justus ready. She made the remark that she heard it was because his mom invented Liquid Paper. The way they responded was by changing the subject and making sure people knew he was working on the album. Alomost as if they didn't want to evenjoke about it. I found it odd today on the Early show when asked about Mike, Micky said it was because his mom invented Liquid Paper and then they started joking about it. I know they were joking on both shows but find it kinda strange how the responses can change in attitude over 5 years. Anyone have any idea why that may be? (If that rambling made any sense)
Also, it was funny to hear Micky still using the white out messes up computer screens joke. He used it on Rosie. LOL
I'm sure they are sick of getting asked the question but they do handle it well every time.
Peace Gleeb and Blue Dork Sticks Christi
From: Jazz
I am interested in finding out the line up for the summer shows. I am going on Thursday, July 12th to the PNC Bank Art Center in NJ. Is there an opening band? How long is the concert? Is it the same as the 2001 Spring Shows? Please let me know. Thanks. Jazz
From: Miss Blue Dork Stick
They are still only selling L and XL.
From: cory
What a shame. This board is a mess in style (all thes old postings mixed in with new ones) & substance (arguements about homophobia & sordid groupie venting). Are the old post-ers still around or did they give up the fight? I'm not saying more aguing, but let's lead by example... or has the board just run it's course & become what Bill Mahrer calls "grafitti on a bathroom wall"?
From: cory
Mark,
Other than the Mark McGrath reference, I second all your thoughts! As far as outside songwriters go, maybe now would be a good time to work that Lou Perlman connection - he has a stable of pop songwriters not dissimilar to Kirschner's 30 years ago!
From: cory
What a shame. This board is a mess in style (all thes old postings mixed in with new ones) & substance (arguements about homophobia & sordid groupie venting). Are the old post-ers still around or did they give up the fight? I'm not saying more aguing, but let's lead by example... or has the board just run it's course & become what Bill Mahrer calls "grafitti on a bathroom wall"?
From: Rocker
The debut album. I guess because it's the first one I heard and it is loaded with great tunes.
From: Estrella
I'm still here, lurking in the shadows mostly. A lot of other people quit posting after the same-sex "Monkee couples" thread.
But activity in the discussion board in general was going to eventually die out anyways (the day in the life of a Monkee discussion board) with some posters giving out e-mail addresses, just happened a lot sooner.
Don't let the silence stop you from posting-- who knows interesting discussions might occur. :)
From: john
I am sorry, of course, you are right. I forgot about those. Sometimes I think only in terms of tunes during the TV show years.
From: Teresa in Texas
Yeah, I'm still waiting patiently for shows in Texas. However, I don't blame them if they don't want to come here in August--it's hotter than you know what. I'm hoping for September, or November when they get back from England.
From: john
I just love it when you Monkeebabes give me sympathy. I am going to Vegas this week. Maybe I will get drunk and try to call Mike again and ask him why he's not on tour this year. See if he'll give me permission to take his place.
"...girl...you look mighty good to me..." How's that?
From: Important question
this is to the girl that got used. It would be great if you could tell us who your experience happened to be with....so others are aware. Or atleast tell us what happened afterwards and why you felt used. Did he give you no way to contact him?
From: Chris Cruz
If you notice, they're not playing their own music. I think in Nez's mind, it would a farce to be up there as the Monkees and not playing the music. He's always been adamant on that point. I don't agree with him, but that's my theory about why he's not on this tour. He probably was approached, but when learned that the band wouldn't actually play, he said, "Forget it!"
From: Teresa in Texas
Cool thread! Of course, Bobby Sherman should be there--he was in one of their episodes. Also, my fave, Michael Martin Murphey, who wrote or co-wrote 3 of their songs.
From: Chris Cruz
They probably are tired the constant "Mike questions" that come up with every reunion and that was the best they could come up with this time! Hee! Hee! Juts a little dry humour. But seriously, they probably were tired of his consent refusals to join them.
From: Rocker
Thanks, you all make good points. Peter was very good on guitar, bass, piano, keyboards, etc. Mike was a pretty decent lead guitarist, as good as many from that era. Micky was okay on drums, but he didn't care if someone else played them as long as he sang lead. Davy was a good percussionist. I'm impressed that he's jamming on guitar nowadays! I'm gonna have to get out and see them the next time they come to town!
From: Penman
Well, they would be able to play their own music if Mike would just join them! It's proven that musical trios work, drums, bass, lead, but neither Micky nor Davy are at the point in their insturments where they could comfortably carry the show. It's the same as back in the sixties when Peter quit and they had to bring in Sam and the Goodtimers. It has everything to do with there needing to be at least two people who really know what they're doing. Mike has millions of reasons not to go back with them, but I don't think having a back-up band is his major point for refusing to join the tour.
From: Chris Coyle
Yes it's true, we have left the board for now. Our new home has a better lay out, faster posting and a moderator. That last post calling us closet gays was the last straw. Mickybabe, how dare you hide behind the internet and slur words, that in the real world would find you in court or worst. Would you say such things to someone's face? I doubt it..
Moving on..
Chris
PS
Cory I got your check and hope to pick you up a cd at tonight's show. email me ccoyle31@hotmail.com
From: The Kid
You don't see much of it. They were definetly good about that. I remembered this site... http://www.psycho-jello.com/monkees/dopeweed.html which has collected pictures of them smoking. Davy definetly tops out. Speaking as a kid though, seeing them smoking has no effect on me. Even present icons. Seeing them stoned, drunk, smoking, high, it's their life, and if some kid's looking to them as a role model for all aspects of life, that kid needs to find a hero closer to home.
From: Vixen
I would like to see a little ..how should I put this...style. No offense to Brad, but the board has been really messed up, html wise, for a while now.
I don't know that a moderator would help. As it seems, people always hate the moderator. People gripe about being censored, people say "if nobody wanted to hear it, it wouldn't get talked about." I speak from experience and from watching other boards. When a moderator actually does his job and moderates, people hate him. When a moderator doesn't do his job, people hate him too. Either way, there is going to be a lot of whining :-)
From: Mark T.
Hey Andrea, I'm glad you took the remarks seriously. However, there is no reason to go over-board as your response did. My original post was not overboard or snide, I believe it was presented in a thoughtful and intelligent manner.
Chris and I never declared ourselves, nor do we consider ourselves, "holier than thou." Perhaps you need to realize that in the adult world it is not smart to put words into someone's mouth or to characterize a person you have never met. I refer you to Sue, Cory, Scott, John, Ree, Deborah, Teresa, DHMF, etc., who have been here since day one, for a second opinion.
In my original post I never said this had to always be a serious place, I also said there was room for fun. So if we are "seriously boring folks" it is you once again making haste judgements out of the blue, something that was not done before. If I and the others are so boring, how come people keep coming back here to post? I can answer that...because it's one of the best discussion boards I've ever participated on here on the internet, and certainly the most fruitful one when it comes to the Monkees (thank you Brad).
And finally, us so-called "serious fans" have done plenty of "Monkeeing" around on this board since its inception. It just seems odd now that the place is being bombarded with 'love' threads or 'how cute they are' threads and the like. A young teenager obsessed with near 60 year old men is not 'normal', I'm sorry.
This will be my last post about this subject. I made my point in a thoughful, rational way without diving into the deep end. Plus, there's too many other awesome new posts to weed through and respond to besides arguing with you.
From: Lauren
Can someone tell me .. will the Monkees come to New Zealand or Australia on their 2001/02 tour?!!!! I hope so.. I came to America in March to see them and I desperately want to see them again it was so great.
From: Mark T.
Chris Cruz, I see your point. I wonder if this is a problem for Nez. He did permit the backing band to join the quartet for the second half of the show during the UK 97 tour. It worked out well.
However, to me, the Monkees are not one of those bands that I feel the need to always be seen up there playing alone, just them, with no backing band. Most big acts have backing bands. Hell, Paul McCartney has a backing band. Tom Petty has the Hearbreakers AND a couple others who round out the sound. REM does the same, as did the Eagles, Fleetwood Mac, the Dave Matthews Band, etc. etc. They all had extra musicians onstage with them. Sure, the Monkees were one hell of a power trio in the Sixties when on the stage, but times have changed. A full band is now needed to round out the sound and re-create the records precisely the way they were made.
If Mike is haggling over the fact that the trio takes a back-up band out with them ( and a fantastic one at that), then I believe IMO that he's over-reacting. I for one was front row in March and watched Peter do the leads on "Clarksville," "PVS," etc etc. Micky did the acoustic guitar lead parts on songs like "Look Out" and "The Girl I Knew Somewhere." It's fine to me that they do the lead parts that way, but also have a band to fill out the sound.
From: Sammy
Help! Does anyone know how to get tickets for their show at Cal State Bakersfield on Aug. 19th?
From: Teresa in Texas
All I can remember is that Micky said something about "liquid paper"--you don't really need it any more since we have computers. So, that was a "nice" dig at Mike.
From: Dan
Hey, I'm still here. I'm still popping in once or twice a day and replying to the stuff that catches my eye. And as it happens, I am one of the people mentioned that exchanged e-mail addresses and screen names with others. And I assure everyone that we talk about LOTS of stuff off-board, not just the Monkees. We aren't neglecting you guys. If we wanna say somethin', we will. :) "Miss Blue Dork Stick" Christi is around, but not in reach of a computer for a bit, so she isn't currently able to post. I heard from her today though, and she had looked at the board and read through all the posts.
So fret not! The two of us are here.
From: cory
First of all, Re: curious about Mike: Mike wasn't approached. Everyone involved knew what the answer would be.
As far as the curious response to questions of his whereabouts on "The Early Show", my theory is that they want to give the impression that the 4 of them are just like they were on the show: happy, fun-loving friends. I don't think they want to get into an ugly, bitter split during a 5 minute tour-promotion segment.
From: Dan
I hear ya, Andrea, and you know I'm with you all the way. But this has all been covered before. This sounds cold and mean, but my belief is....We're here to voice our thoughts, we have every right to do so. We SHOULD CONTINUE to do so, whatever those thoughts may be, and if anyone is so turned off to the point of feeling compelled to leave? Well, I personally think that's an overreaction. But I'm going to say that what must be must be. If that's what it takes to allow us to continue here freely.
I would not have a problem with a moderator, depending upon the conditions that would be set. That is, what would the rules be? You know? I mean, nothing dirty has been said and even the swearing has been extremely minimal. I still consider this board, when it's not bickering, very friendly. It is only when people look for trouble that trouble happens.
There have been days when I've checked out the board and been bored silly 'cause nothing interested me. Did I rant about how uninteresting all of the most recent topics were and slam my door on you guys forever? No. And to those of you who are about to retort and say that it's different, I am aware that it's different. But it's still comparable, and I still maintain the belief that nothing really offensive has ever been said here.
Would I be persecuted if I made inquiry about an individual Monkee's sex life? Or drug experience? I would only be talking about the factual history of a the band we're here to discuss. But I know that would offend someone. Come on, we either have to draw the line somewhere, or else agree that there is no line and accept what follows maturely.
From: Teresa in Texas
Oh, I almost forgot--Peter also talked about the '97 tour and how Mike started out with them, but then he left and they couldn't find him, so they went to his house and there was 6 weeks worth of dust on everything and no Mike in sight. So, they basically said, no one's heard from or seen him in years. Peter also said last he's heard, Mike's in Santa Fe.
From: john
I don't want to sound like a snob. Alot of the newer posters are cool and I am glad to have met them. But I am not following the board closly anymore because of 1: the screwed up format and 2: the substance. I found that whole line about Davy sleeping with some woman or many women to be unnecessary on a board that is for celebrating the Monkees. Rocker posted a great topic about playing ability but got few responses. I am dissapointed in the current condition of the board. I long for the old days. Go ahead guys, jump all over me...
From: Steph
Welcome :)
My fav album has to be Headquarters. PAC&J is a close second, and I really like Head.
From: Lurker
Andrea....you are part of the reason why the old posters left! You say you can't figure it out, but hey, you and the others chose to go down the road of no return with all of those immature posts....so now you pay the price. Wake up! I can't stand when people create a mess and then try to divert the blame to somebody else and cry innocent, when it was you, Andrea, and your cohorts (the dork stick people) who ARE the problem! And to Estrella, the discussion would have never simmered down. The die-hards would always be around to talk Monkees. But they're all gone now so whoever said it before (Mark? Chris? Suzannetigger?) that the silly posters would ruin the board, was right ....and yet those same silly posters will probably be gone in a while. But again, so are the diehards gone, and because of that, the board will die, not because there is nothing to talk about. It's been 35 years and we're STILL talking.
From: Steph
Yeah - it's on the Shrek soundrack (which I immediately bought after seeing the movie). Smashmouth did a really cool version. Eddie Murphy's version is pretty funny. My sister and I went to see the movie (we were the oldest ones there without kids with us) - I highly recommend it :)
From: Ashley
I'm still here. I've been here since the very beginning. Posting if there is a topic I find interesting, like most of you. Don't worry, I'm not going anywhere. : )
Ashley
From: Steph
LOL!! john - I nearly fell out off my chair!!!
From: Estrella
Well, it may have faster posting, but the reply function on that board is not working.
From: Jason
Hey evetyone, wondering if any of you are going to see The Monkees at Wolf trap in Vienna VA July 22nd. I'm in the 2nd row..cant wait!!!!!!!! My first Monkees concert was at Wolf rap in 89
From: Ashley
I emailed Fishof yesterday about the whole sercurity guard thing at Freedom Hill Amplitheater, and I got an email back today that said: I'm sending your email to the promoter. Did anybody eles that went to the Sterling Heights concert write to Fishof too?
Ashley
From: **Ashley**
Hey... don't hate on us Michiganders! LoL =)
Peace n Gleeb
From: Monkeephile
Having had Mike on tour in 97 which was fun I do have to say it's probably best he isn't there they only did about 1 and a half hour set when he toured with them and was very static.
From: **Ashley**
Don't mind Sara... she's Sara...
Peace n Gleeb
From: Ashley
I know this idea was brought up a while back, but I thought I'd post about it again anyway. I know this is a "wishfull thinking" kind of post, but IF there ever was a Monkee's "Storytellers", what songs would you want to know the story behind? I think it should only include songs the Monkees wrote, so the show would have to include Mike too(yet again, "wishfull thinking"). I'd like to hear the stories behind songs like "You just may be the one", "Sunny girlfriend", etc. I'd like to know what everyone else thinks too.
Ashley
From: **Ashley**
Am I the only one who liked Hey Hey It's The Monkees??? =/ Oh well... there is no fruit!! Sorry...
Peace n Gleeb
From: Julianna Michelle
I agree with Vixen. You know, if there was a moderator, there would be those who would jump all over him for overly doing his job, and those who would do the same for him under-doing his job. It really seems to me that the older posters of this board get hurt far easier than the newer/younger posters. Seeing as how the majority who has quit just before the miracle have been Mark, Chris, Monkeescott, DHMF, etc. Not to name names because I wish they still were here. Is it that hard to skip over posts you don't like? They made excellent posts and the board suffers without them here. I suppose that in all our lives, this board means nothing in the long run and so therefore is not worth the trouble. But why not live for the now. Give yourself a challenge and stick it out. A few were sooo positive that the silly posters would be gone in a few weeks or something, but it seems vice versa now, doesn't it. Which is a shame, I think. So many people could have jumped all over the thread about Davy being a womanizer but most just passed over it in disgust and left those intrested to their own devices. Which worked out great. It would be nice to have every poster on this board interact postively with eachother, but this isn't a utopia; it's an internet disscussion board! Not to say that nothing good can come of it (as DHMF has pointed out), I met a girl a year older than me on a similar board, she lives in Germany. I have now known her for over a year and if the ocean didn't seperate us, we would be as close as sisters. It is as if we once knew eachother, but one of us simply had to move away. And Stacey is now friends with Anna's best friend and so we have this small family all the way over the Atlantic Ocean and it's wonderful! The ironic thing about all this is that if people didn't reply to the silly posts, they would die out quickly, but since people ridicule them, they keep going and going until a nice granddaddy like Monkeescott is forced from the board (Or rather leaves of his own free will). Mind you, despite DHMF's attempts to reconcile; he really didn't mean any harm. But to no avail. Since I joined this board.... a few weeks ago (about a month), it is really different. Partly because of the technical difficulties; but it's much more chaotic now. It seemed so mellow, and layed back. Actually Monkeescott was the reason I stuck in here, because of his grandson, it was a MONKEEFAMILY!!!! But it's like the members of the Monkee family all caught some deadly disease, weeks after the new born baby arrived! (Bad analogy... sorry :o) We even found our backstage angel from our concert here! The one lady in the whole world we actually talked to backstage and who we owed something to, and we found her here! Amazing! I don't know about some people, but I usually don't get peronally hurt by this board, I usually laugh, "What a jerk!" or something like that, and leave it at that. It works great. And about talking about the Monkees's peronal lives on the board and how it's such an DISGRACE!!!!! I read on this page...from Brad himself... that the board was to discuss the buisness aspect of the MOnkees, the music, the show, the men they have become, the careers they have developed, as well as their personal lives... in a tasteful manner of course. Like Jessica being deaf... or Mike's wife/girlfriend (?) Victoria.... but a lot of people think that even that is a waste of time. How can we love these men and not discuss their personal lives? Music derives from within.... within can't all come from an office building or a studio room.... it comes from other places that we are not a part of, mostly. But does it hurt to discuss it on a simple interent board? It's not like we're walking into Mike's kitchen while he's having a family dinner! One more thing.... Lurker?... Is that you Mark? I really think it is. Just read the way he gets on Andrea's case... so hurt by it... apparently. And also the way he'll suddenly exclame things like "Wake Up!" So typically Mark... Welcome back babe! Don't be shy. :o)
Campagning for a rebuilt Monkee family, Amanda-Michelle
From: cory
Wow! Here's my two cents:
First of all, I'm stunned by the huge response to the new bulletin board! Where did all you people come from!? I can't even keep up with the discussions!
Secondly, every now and then someone posts something I find silly or even, occasionally, mean (either toward The Monkees or toward other post-ers) & I think the best response is to ignore them. IF there are freaks out there (and I'm not calling anyone in particular a freak - in fact, I think we all have a little freak in us or we wouldn't spend so much time posting messages on a Monkees website!), ignore their posts & they'll lose interest. I think nearly all of us - no matter the age - approach this board with SOME degree of seriousness, because people tend to be serious about the things they feel passionately about, anb that that tone of reverence will likely dominate the overall proceedings, even if there is the occasional freaky suggestion or broadly comic relief.
From: Julianna Michelle
Teresa, I'm glad you set him straight! Let us know if he replies! Jerk, I love when people state things about them that they don't know. Oh well, human nature, I guess. They don't listen to critics and such now anyway, so no real harm done, I suppose. Also Teresa, don't let anything on this board send you running, alright? Because it would really be a shame if we lost you too!
God is love!
From: cory
But, of course I thought Mike would be the savior who would deliver The Great Monkees Comeback Album! So what do I know? Maybe The Monkees are a product of the 60's & are just, by nature, unable to capture that magic in any other decade.
From: Julianna Michelle
Teresa, I'm glad you set him straight! Let us know if he replies! Jerk, I love when people state things about them that they don't know. Oh well, human nature, I guess. They don't listen to critics and such now anyway, so no real harm done, I suppose. Also Teresa, don't let anything on this board send you running, alright? Because it would really be a shame if we lost you too!
God is love!
From: cory
... or can Pete still get Stephen Stills?
From: SheLovesTork
I will be at the Monday Westbury concert. I have front row seats and will be in section B. Hope to see you there!
From: Mark J.
Here's another one: The way the Bee Gees play "Tragedy" nowadays in concert, the beginning sounds just like the guitar in "She"! (I can just hear Maurice take the lead vocal...)
From: Tyme
I don't want everyone to jump all over me and I'm deffinatly NOT taking sides. But can't we all just let by gones be by gones? It's over done with *poof* all gone. It's already happened. We can leave whatever happened in the past and let it stay there. If pple still want to continue to post here awesome, if some pple choose to leave all the power to them. It's their choice where they choose to chat and who they choose to chat with. It's nobody's fault about what's happening on this board. We all just happen to have different opinions of what we think fun is, and sometimes it just happens to rub pple the wrong way. But you know what? We can just get over it now. I will continue to post on this board for as long as I am welcome. I have been here since day one and haven't stopped posting since. I love ALL of my monkeebuddies here. I just hope that the ones that are still around stay around. So please, please, can we please stop pointing the fingers? Let's not drive anymore of our friends away. We *are* all friends right? A bunch of pple coming together on the internet to talk about the number one thing we ALL have in common, THE MONKEES! So, instead of fighting about silly posts, and who's fault what is, let's just continue to talk about what we're here to talk about. If you find a post to be silly, immature or inappropriote (sp? We shouldn't really have any bad post here anyways. I really wouldn't dig anything bad being said here) jsut don't read them or don't reply to them. All this does is cause more and more tension between the board members. Let's just let everything in the past go and start fresh again.
Peace and Gleeb,
Tyme
From: suzannetigger
when asked why Mike wasn't on tour with them peter commented on his dissapearance from the 97 tour stating they went to his house and the gate was locked and there was 6 inches of dust on everything. Basically turning into a joke that he walked on them
From: Estrella
You might want to try David Fishof's promotion company at dfishof@aol.com to see if they're going down under.
From: Stacey
Oh man....the age thing!!! That is probably the most grief I get from people for my loving the Bealtes and the Monkees. "Aren't they all dead?" No they're not dead!! John is, but that was a horrible unfortunate and unnatural death. :( Yes, and I hate having to keep comments to myself such as "Peter is sooo sexy!!!" Beacuse I mean, young 60s peter is sexy, but the Peter here and now is sexy too! Of course, I must be INSANE to think that an "old man" is sexy.... the people my age are such.....uncultured swine! Oh well. At least I'm not one of them! Ha! :)
From: Estrella
"Cal State's Amphitheater can hold approximately 2500 people -- there will be only 400 Reserved Seats, the rest is Lawn Seating.
For those of you wishing to purchase seats from my available block seats, note these are sold with DINNER INCLUDED ONLY. Pricing is $50.00 per person for center section, $40.00 per person for side section and $30.00 per person for lawn seating.
If you are interested in purchasing tickets, please contact me @: Classicstephanie@cs.com"
-- seen posted at various places, and no I'm not the one selling them! :)
From: cory
Just Great! Chris, I just wanted to let you know I so often REALLY appreciate your posts.
From: Estrella
Ah, okay, sweetie, you go ahead and think that.
From: Mark J.
Cool!
From: Estrella
Ah, okay, sweetie, you go ahead and think that.
From:
From: Tammy
She probably learned to speak and sing before she went deaf. Or maybe she was only partially deaf? Gleeb, Tammy
From: suzannetigger
I certainly agree with your points Mark and if I may add that while the back up band for this tour is terrific, they serve only to compliment the Monkees and do not deter or steal the limelight away from the three at all. Everyone there was there to see those three men perfom and I don't know if Alvin and the Chipmunks played back up if anyone would have really cared when Micky Davy and Peter walked on that stage it was all about them!
From: CT
I don't think the board is ruined. There were just as many posts today as there were when the others were here. Personally, I don't think a moderator is a good idea. But anyway, it's over and done with, so why don't we just forget about it and go on with our discussions.
From: Dan Lafferty
I noticed that. I wondered if it was intentional. Not a bad idea....You made your point in those three words and someone could gather what your post says without even clicking on it! Resourceful!!!
From: Lurker
No Tyme, I'm not your friend and neither is anybody else on this board. I'm not trying to be rude, so please don't take it that way. A friend is someone you can personally communicate with face to face, learn about the person through interaction and build on it from day to day. This is simply a discussion area on the internet to trade thoughts with other people who are fans of the Monkees.
From: Stacey
Soooo, did everyone watch the Monkees this morning on the Early Show? I even woke up at 7 AM just to record and watch it! And that is early for me considering I'm a high school kid on summer break who usually sleeps till noon. (Of course I did go back to bed as soon as it was over at 9:00! :) Yay, I was so happy to see them! I haven't seen them on TV in quite a while. Of course, I did meet them two months ago, so i guess I have NO ROOM to complain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :) But I really thoroughly enjoyed how Peter broke in on Micky's conversation with (what's his name?) that reporter guy saying "I'm sick of you always being our spokesperson with that damn Vulcan example!" or something to that effect. I love peter!! And it's true, Mick needs to lay off the Vulcan thing. Of course, now his new analogy which he used was "It's like George Clooney really becoming and emergency room doctor" Oh, Micky, Micky, Micky........
But I didn't like how the reporter talked to each one of them, and then all these chicks screamed when he talked to Davy!! If you are going to scream for Davy, you'd better be screaming for Micky and Peter too! 'heart throb' indeed! :):):)
You know, I was in Santa Fe just this last weekend, but I didn't run into Mike. Too bad, huh? :)
From: Steph
When I found this board back in March, I was really psyched and was welcomed with "open arms" by Mark, Chris, Tyme, Suzannetigger, DHMF, et al. It was a great place to be a newbie and we had a lot of great discussions. Unfortunately things change - inevitable with all things. I am glad to have met my "MonkeeBuddies" like Andrea, Sue, etc. This board also helped me & Andrea to hook up and work together on the Monkeestock plan. I didn't even mind the crazy posts that showed up in the middle of the board :)
With a lot of new projects (including Monkeestock) and facing the danger of losing my job, I don't have as much time to devote to discussion boards - as great as the discussions have been. I tried to stay out of the last rehashes of this tiresome argument, but I'm now stating my piece. I love this board and the community of posters that was formed. A lot of you new posters are really fun to read and I hope you continue after this summer's burst of MonkeeMania. As for the "older" posters, I was sad to see them depart from the board, but I understand their frustration. I have joined them on the *other* board, but will continue to visit here when I can. I agree with Andrea however, that a moderator may be needed. I am also against harsh censorship, but I think that it is necessary when some people don't consider the feelings of other readers. I miss the community that developed from the old board, and I hope that once all this mess is in the past we can all get along and respect each other and the Monkees.
Peace & Monkeestock ~~Steph
From: cory
Man, I want to comment on so much, but I'm overwhelmed! But my main question is... I noticed below that there are references to a live album being sold at concerts. Is this something new or is it just the old "Live 1986" CD repackaged?
From: Julianna Michelle
I'll tell you where he is... he is SOOO "Lurker"! Is it just my imagination, or does anyone else see this? I mean, I see what he's talking about, because there is a difference between friends and aquaintances (although I'm sure he'd agrue that he is not the aquaintance of anyone either...) but that doesn't mean that friendships can't develop and it certainly makes things better to call eachother friends. It's not really that he's negative, he just really doesn't like... people? Or something. Not enough Tolerance. Read the book "A Patch of Blue", Mark, because it teaches how tolerance can be a wonderful and respected thing! And it can. Now, I'm not jumping all over you or attacking you, so please don't take it that way... But we both like the Monkees and well, that's a lot. I don't really agree with CT too much because I actually do want some of those who have left, to come back. But Oh well I suppose, eh. Tyme, I'm glad to call myself your Monkee buddy! (And Mark if that were his bag, but we don't want to push him into anything...) :o)
God is Love! Amanda
From: Mark J.
"Do I have to post this all over again...?
Didn't I do it right... the first time?
Do I have to post this all over again...?
How many times do I have to hit REPLY?
Didn't I... Didn't I...
Can I see my way to know what's really real...
They say time can play all kinds of tricks...
I know that's more than just some kind of deal...
Yeah, but I can find my way around 'cause I have my Dork Stick!
Didn't I... Oh, Didn't I......"
From: Coconut
Tuche! I could'nt have stated it better myself! I'm smellin the coffie!! is anyone else?!
From: suzannetigger
did everyone notice the size of the crowd at the today show segment? I thought it was a pretty good size
From: Dan
I think many of us are tip-toeing around something without acknowledging it: There is clearly more and more of a split between the posters here. Cliques have formed also, which is natural and inevitable. And, incidentally, Mark...oops, I mean, umm..what are you going by now? Lurker, is it? Well, I do consider some of the people here my friends. If you can't understand that, it's because you are resentful for not being a part of any of the cliques that have formed.
The bottom line: The Overly Sensitive Easily Offended Ones want a moderator to either scare us away or else to keep us in line. The Free Speakers Who Still Believe In A Three-Letter Word That Starts With "F" And Rhymes With "Run" are thinking that, if the others get offended enough, they'll just leave. Either way, in the end, there will be two groups, and we will be Monkee Fans Divided. Whatever. I don't care. I'm here to talk and share ideas and meet people. I've done that and continue to do that. And I know who my friends are and who I can count on. But the problem is...neither of these scenarios are really going to happen, and we are all stuck in an uncomfortable position.
From: Jennie
I got into this big argument with an uncle of mine (who's about 45, and usually pretty cool) he was going off about how strange it was that I liked the Monkees because (quoting Jimmy, my uncle) "They're older than I am!!!" to which I said, "yeah, and they're hotter too!!!" I'm not ashamed of the fact that I'm attracted to senior citizens.
:)
From: confused
so, I see on the monkees2001 page a date in Raleigh, but I cant seem to find any info on this anywhere else. Is this show happening or was it cancelled? Its says July 24th.
From: jamie
On the Early show, I noticed that the three trumpet players weren't there. Does anyone know anything about them? I talked to the one with the curly hair in Jacksonville for a while, but I never found out his name. I hope they stick with the tour. I know they were with them on Live with Regis and Kelly.
From: confused
so, I see on the monkees2001 page a date in Raleigh, but I cant seem to find any info on this anywhere else. Is this show happening or was it cancelled? Its says July 24th.
From: Mark T.
Cory: It's a totally new Live CD, recorded in Las Vegas at the end of the spring tour! The trio and bassist Jerry Renino picked the tracks and Renino mixed and produced it. Here's the track list:
Intro/Clarksville
Little Bit Me
Randy Scouse Git
Auntie Grizelda
Valleri
Goin' Down
Lucille
Oliver Medley
Since I Fell For You
Is You Is Or Is You Ain't My Baby
Higher and Higher
Girl
Two Part Invention In F
I'm A Believer
Papa Gene's Blues
That Was Then, This Is Now
Porpoise Song/Listen To The Band
Daydream Believer
Stepping Stone
Pleasant Valley Sunday
From: hmm
are they playing there on july 24th? I see the date listed on the monkees2001 website but nowhere else! was it canceled?
From: suzannetigger
If I counted correctly this is now the 100th post today. Thats gotta be some sort of record!
From: hmm
are they playing there on july 24th? I see the date listed on the monkees2001 website but nowhere else! was it canceled?
From: suzannetigger
If I counted correctly this is now the 100th post today. Thats gotta be some sort of record!
From: Mark T.
Upon the advice of Chris Coyle and Suzannetigger, I thought I'd better check this board out for the first time in a week, and what did I find when I arrived? I seem to be the Million Dollar Man around here! I'm sorry to disappoint, but I'm not the post-er named 'Lurker.' To Tyme, Dan and the others, did it ever occur to you that there may be other people who agree with me and my point of view?!?!?! EGAD, it's true! Shucks, Tyme and Dan, there are others in this world who don't want to play your little 2nd grade games of defining friends, and who realize how and why this discussion board has become what it's become.
Yes, it's true, Tyme and Dan, I'm seeking counseling today because I have no friends. Yes, I'm a loser who can't figure out how or what a "friend" is or how or where you can have them. Of course I'm being sarcastic and dumb, but only doing so to prove my point...you are being dumb too! Grow up! I have several friends from this board, Chris Coyle and Suzanntigger to name two. And why am I the bullseye of your frustrations? Have you two (and all the rest of you) not noticed that those two post-ers no longer participate here? (As well as a few others.) I'm not there slapping there hand everytime they want to come to this discussion board. Nobody is stopping them. Obviously they see things the same way as I do, about the board and about YOU, and they choose no longer to "lurk" around the place while your here. If anybody is being 'discriminatory', it's you two, for both Chris and Sue have written about their disdain openly to this board, and yet received no responses and no flame wars directed towards them! What a double standard. If you guys want to give me all the attention, how about sending me a birthday gift next week while you are at it!
Tyme and Dan, instead of playing conspiracy theory, why don't you go ahead and start some fruitful and intelligent conversations about the Monkees, here in this board, right here/right now. Come on, guys, I dare you! It might actually be fun! Oh no, Mark said the word FUN!!!!!! WOW! I'm cured!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YAY!!
Anyway, back to my life and time to post on a board where my friends (YES! EGAD! HE HAS FRIENDS! PASS OUT NOW.) are and where it's worth spending my little free time! Because, it's certainly not worth it here.
(Rock on, Lurker.)
From: Ree
Hey Scott - What a Father's Day!
I knew it, I just knew it! I had a feeling that you will be going one more time! You better post what went on. I'll be looking.
What did you think of the Early Show. . . I thought they got a pretty good promo. The comment about Mike not being home was pretty good.
Ree
From: LURKER!!!!
Fishof sounds accomodating. I hope he is speaking truth about the album!
From: suzannetigger
If I counted correctly mine is the 100th post today. Thats gotta be some sort of record for this board
From: Teresa in Texas
Michelle, A couple of us have given away Monkee related stuff here on the board. I'm a member of another board and usually it's a no-no to sell on a board like this. Also, you have no recourse if something goes wrong. Some people here have mentioned that they're selling something on ebay, so we can check it out if we're interested. I think you ought to check out ebay or half.com if you want to sell something. Then you can let us know if you've listed it, in case there are interested buyers. Ebay and half.com will protect you in case a sale fails to go through. It's less risky.
From: Mark T.
Hey Jamie, check out my set list page and at the bottom there is a link to a fan page that talks about two of the horn section players.
I met Sam Albright, the blonde haired guy, backstage in March. Very cool dude who appreciated my comment on how great a job they did. (Click on the link Below):
http://monkees.net/docs/setlist.htm
From: Teresa in Texas
Hey, guys, I heard from Mr. Sherrington yesterday. He e-mailed me back and said, "well, I was just trying to be funny." I certainly don't think it's funny to perpetuate a 35 year old myth. Hopefully, he understood why I was upset with what he wrote.
As for the board, I am sad at seeing so many wonderful people leave. I'm not sure if I can stay much longer anyway. I mostly wanted information on concerts. I love seeing all the reviews, and I'm still hoping desperately that they'll come to Texas. But, I do have other things calling me in my life as well. I'll see what I can do. Thanks so much, Julianna Michelle!
From: suzannetigger
Wow what a great fathers day present. you brought those boys up right I'd say lol! I know how happy your are about going Monkeescott and have a great time.
From: me
Raleigh, NC concert info
July 24, a Tuesday, at 8 PM.
Tickets are on sale through Ticketmaster.com or by calling 919-834-4000 .
The show is actually in Cary, NC, just outside of Raleigh. It's at the Regency Park Amphitheater. There are a thousand reserved seats at $33 and then general lawn admission at $23. There is no seating chart available.
(this was from the alert list here at monkees.net--go sign up for it, if you haven't already--just go to the front page and look for the alert list and sub to it to keep up with the news)
From: Mark T.
Rocker: Micky Dolenz is one of the most under-rated American pop/rock singers of our time. I can say that with a serious face and I will argue that point with anyone. He is the voice and sound of the Monkees' music.
Perhaps I will agree that from the start, the session players should have been credited on the albums. What exactly was Kirshner and company afraid of? Actually, back then, there were no big detailed liner notes accompanying albums like there are today in modern CD booklets. Gosh, did the Beatles even get credit on their albums as to what instruments they played on what song? I don't think they did.
My father to this day always remembers the stigma of them "not playing their own instruments," and unfortunately, I don't think that will ever go away.....no matter how much us true fans know the real story! Ya just gotta keep spreading the word and set the record straight!
From: John
Yo! I feel left out if you and the other old posters have moved to another board. Tell me where so I can get back in the fold. You, Cory, Cris, Suzietigger, left me with no forwarding address! jbordeau@sanconwar.
From: Mark T.
1. Headquarters
2. Pisces
3. HEAD
From: john
From: Mark T.
Cory, I must admit, Mark McGrath and Sugar Ray are a guilty pleasure for me. Their music takes me back to the not-so-distant past when I was in college partying and living in the dorms. :)
From: John
I agree with you plea. Now if brad could just fix the FORM of the board, life would be alot nicer.
From: **Ashley**
Hey girl you're not the only one who thinks that the Monkees were and still are cute! You're not alone!
Peace n Gleeb
From: Been around a long time
This is to used I do not think you should reveal the name of the monkee that you felt used you. There are many of us who do have a good idea who he is and sorry to say that is the way he is. Men in general will tell you what they want you to hear if they want to get in your pants. If anyone goes alone into their tour bus or backstage into their dressing room then you are asking for it. I do feel sorry for you because it was not a good experience for you. When you mentioned in your message that he made you feel special for 30 seconds that to me is not too good.
From: Mark J.
I thought about that one, but ya beat me to it...
You know, if you see nine of those things together at one time, I guess that would be Nine Times Blue Dork Stick.
From: Loreli
it is now
From: **Ashley**
And you shouldn't be! I am too... and proud of it! =)
Peace n Gleeb
From: no one
The show is still on, be forewarned there maybe someone there, who cann't keep her mouth shut, so be careful! And you know who are in VA
From: Mark T.
Ouch! If that's humor, that's a biting humor towards Mike! Unfortunately I was at work and forgot to tape the show this morning, a true rarity for me to miss a Monkees TV appearance! :( I wish I had heard how Peter said it to see how he was trying to come across. Hmmmmmmm.
From: shannon
Glad you heard from Fishof. I have one question for Fishof WHAT EVER HAPPENED to the VANITY FAIR PHOTOS? I do not believe half of the things David Fishof says. I do believe the Monkees will make a album. I am praying it will be better hen Justus which I thought was one of the worse thingsthey ever recorded. I do not believe they willstay together for now on. I see them on and off touring. If they keep this up and keep doing it just like before the attendence will go way down again because people will tire of them. I have seen the show already 3 times and that is quite enough for me. I rather see them solo now.
From: suzannetigger
Jennie, I nearly fell off my chair laughing when I read your senior citizens comment! I'm sure David Micky or Peter consider themselves in that catagory quite yet. My daughter has also run into quite a few classmates who don't understand her facination with the Monkees but slowly she has been winning them over, or maybe brainwashing them to her side of the picture! So keep on educating those who do "get it" Even my fuddy duddy old husband who claims he doesn't care for the Monkees can be seen singing along to their tunes every now and then.
From: Dan
As a couple of us have been "challenged" to post something new and unrelated to all the crap that was going on, and something Monkee-related, I am stepping up and accepting the challenge.
Anyone care to share their Ideal Dream Setlist, including the actual sequence, and different versions? Which song, if Last Train to Clarksville wasn't an option, would make a great opening number?
I think "That Was Then, This Is Now" would make a good opener, and I'd like to see "Your Auntie Grizelda" and "Look Out (Here Comes Tomorrow" closer to the end of the show. "(I'm Not Your) Steppin' Stone" works well at the end of the show, and "Pleasant Valley Sunday" really is a great closing number. But "I'm a Believer" I would like to see somewhere in the middle. And if I had to pick a song that isn't "Pleasant Valley Sunday" to close with? Well....I'd have to say either "(I'm Not Your) Steppin' Stone" or "Look Out (Here Comes Tomorrow)". "Anytime, Anyplace, Anywhere" and "As We Go Along" would be good towards the end of the show, and I'd definitely like to see Peter's rendition of "I Don't Think You Know Me" in there somewhere.
There you have it. I could have done a whole setlist, but I'm just not in the mood. :)
Later,
Dan
From: Ree
The comment Peter made about Mike was something. Basically said that he was not asked. Then it went into the bit about Mike not being home, locked gates, no notes and dust everywhere. Davy commented that if you hear from Mike to let them know.
From: Deidre
Just received a call today from the Northampton Box Office concerning the Thursday, July 19th concert at the Pines Theater in Florence, MA. The concert has been moved to another venue, the Calvin Theater, located in Northampton, MA. For those of you with tickets already, you may want to call the box office at 1-800-THE-TICK or (413) 586-8686 to verify your new seating (mine are basically in the same place). Also check out this website for box office info and directions to the theater: http://www.iheg.com/home.htm
(Copied direct from AMM)
From: Ree
Thanks again Mark! I appreciate that. Just absorbing and digesting the info given.
From: Freedoms Child
Did anyone go to the Knoxville Tennessee show last friday. I saw Peter on the local news but I couldn't attend...please someone give ME A REVIEW AND PUT ME OUT OF MY MISERY!!!!!!! BWAHAHAHAHAAHAH!!!!!!!!
dona nobis pacem, FREEDOMS CHILD
From: Ree
You welcome! Thanks John.
From: Freedoms Child
Did anyone go to the Knoxville Tennessee show last friday. I saw Peter on the local news but I couldn't attend...please someone give ME A REVIEW AND PUT ME OUT OF MY MISERY!!!!!!! BWAHAHAHAHAAHAH!!!!!!!!
dona nobis pacem, FREEDOMS CHILD
From: Tyme
Stacey, you are my goddess! I'm glad alot of us youngin's still think that Peter is till one sexy...you know what... :)
I'm not afraid to say it! I say it everyday! Say it loud and proud and don't care about the ridicule! Just say it one day be like "Peter Tork is still a sexy b***h!"
After a while people get used to hearing it and they get over it. Now, my friends just tease me, and I joke to. If we see hott guys on the street I always tell my friends that he has to be at least 60 to turn MY head! hehe
Tyme
From: MonkEShyn
Yeah, I would love that. Maybe have the 3 guys there and have Mike come later as a "suprise" They could do the hits as well as some of the other non commercial hits, something like "All of your toys", etc. Again, wishful thinking!
From: Tyme
HEAD
From: Julianna Michelle
Hey Mark, If you give me your address I'll send you a birthday present! No joking. :o)
Peace, Amanda
From: suzannetigger
lol oh no John don't do that again! I'd hate to see you in the slammer for harassment or something!
From: Julianna Michelle
Hmm... you know, I really liked what they sang at our concert. I'd like them to open with something really inspiring like Listen to the Band. I'd love for them to sing more of their songs from Justus. Definitely Micky should sing "Never Enough" and "Unlucky Stars", and Peter should sing "I believe you". We really wanted Pete to sing "Gettin in"! Uh... "What am I doing Hanging 'Round" would be ideal, but strange not in Mike's voice. "Can you dig it?" definitely should be there. A good closing sequence would be... "Porpoise Song" and then... I really did like "Daydream Believer" being last (despite my grudge for it, it was magical!) O yeah, Davy should sing "So goes love"! I love it, man!
That's fun. Thanks Dan. Now let's see how many responses it gets...
God is love!
From: The Kid
I've been trading emails with all three of them since I saw them in Vegas. Their names are Eric Biondo (trumpet, short, black hair), Greg Biggler (trombone, curly black hair, glasses) and Sam Albright (saxaphone, blond) Now that they're on tour, they can't reply as much, but they said Regis and Kelly was really fun, and that they weren't going to be on The Early Show. Still waiting to hear why from them. Most of what I learned about them I got from www.the-monkees.net We mostly just talk about music and the tour. Apparently, they're having a great time!
From: Tyme
Ok, so "friend" was the wrong word to use I guess. I was just trying to make a point...goodness. You needn't be so rude "lurker", I was just trying to mend the path and get on with everything. But it seems that you are trying to just keep stirring up the action. Forget trying to be nice...
From: Christi
You counted the posts?? LOL
From: Tyme
Mark,
For someone who claims to be an adult you are very rude and immature! Did I ever attack you once in my last post? No, I did not. Did I say once anything silly or ridulcous about the Monkees in my last post? No, I did not. Have I ever fully contributed to any of the more "sillier" post on this board? No, I don't think so. So why is it that you choose to pick ME, out of all the pple you chose to bash in your last post. No, you are not the man, you just happen to be mentioned in several posts because of yer views on the monkees and the pple on this board. you know what? Good for you, I'm glad you like the monkees, and love dicussing them. But wake up! I was only trying to mend the road so we could all get on with this dicussion board and forget all this silly nonsense. But you, who have not been on this board in more than a week, have the audacity to show up here and start saying mean and terrible things to me. Have I ever once said anything, ANYTHING mean and terrible to you? Huh? Have I ever? You know, this may be the internet, and I may not know you, and will never know you. But, I still have feelings, and, maybe you don't read very well, but I believe that a perfectly stated the purpose of my last post. Do I need to say it again? Well, no I don't think so. Seeing I'm one of the few pple who actually approached the subject in a civilized way. I guess maybe I won't post here anymore. Seeing as no matter how hard I try to be nice and not take sides I still become attacked.
Peace and Gleeb to all my MonkeeBuddies. Keep in touch ok? TorkyTyme@hotmail.com
Tyme
From: suzannetigger
I just won a Mike Nesmith CD Hits keep coming from Ebay and am anxiously waiting it's arrival. It's the first solo album of any of the guys I've bought so I'm hoping that you Chris may have some listening advice for me. I'm sure you must have this one in your collection from what I have read on this board you seem to have the most extensive Nesmith collection. Is this a good solo cd to start out with? is it more country or pop sounds? what other solo cd's of Nez's would be good for me to purchase? Is it better to try to start in chronilogical order when buying them? Any buying and listening advice you can give me would be greatly appreciated. I know you are busy moving and all so don't feel you have to rush to answer this post. tommorrow will do fine! LOL
Sue
From: Deborah in Clearwater
The concert was excellent!! I was right next to the stage where Peter was. I even was able to get his autograph on my picture of the four of them from the sixties. I am sorryabout the girl who got used by Davy and to Jan who was given a hard time about getting a pass backstage and meeting them. A girl that was right behind me got a backstage pass. Some guy was just handing them out to people down by the stage. I wasn't lucky enough to get back there but my picture made it back there and Peter signed it and remembered it also. He should have I flashed it in his face every song they sang. Oh yeah and I wrote down the set list. Last Train was the opener of course. Here Comes Tomorrow, For Pete's Sake,Girl I Knew Somewhere, Valleri, Randy Scouse Git, Mary Mary, Auntie Grezelda (Micky on Drums for those last two songs) I Wanna Be Free, I'll Love you Forever (Davy solo) Goin Down, Can You Dig It, (Davy solo) Girl, Higher and Higher, A Little Bit Me, Peter did a Bach solo, No Time, Long Title, She Hangs Out, (Micky solo) Since I fell For you, (Peter solo) Lucille, (Davy solo) Oliver medley, That was then This is Now, Porpoise Song, Listen To the Band, Daydream Believer. There encore was I'm a Believer, Steppin Stone and Pleasent Valley Sunday. I'll be at the Sarasota show July28th second row. See ya all there!!
From: Tyme
How old are they? One of them looked pretty young at the lowell show (bear in mind I had balcony seats for most of the concert) I had to turn to one of my girlfriends and ask them whether or not he was a young musical prodigy of some sort. He looked young enough to be in the high school band! (yey to all the band geeks out there, we rule.)
Tyme
From: suzy1163
WHAT A SHOW!!! I drove all the way from Birmngham,AL to see them and it was Magnificent!! I tried really hard to get back stage but they just wouldn't budge. They made everyone have such a good time because they were having fun on stage too! I would to see them again. What's the future hold for a 2002 tour anyone?
From: Miss Blue Dork Stick
LOL! I had thought about calling it the Tork stick but didn't want people to make bad guesses as to what it was. If ya know what I mean. LOL JK
Peace Gleeb and Blue TORK sticks Christi
From: suzy1163
WHAT A SHOW!!! I drove all the way from Birmngham,AL to see them and it was Magnificent!! I tried really hard to get back stage but they just wouldn't budge. They made everyone have such a good time because they were having fun on stage too! I would to see them again. What's the future hold for a 2002 tour anyone?
From: Mark T.
Sue, Chris will most definitely be able to give you a great review of "And the Hits Just Keep on Comin'".
For extra reference after Chris' review, refer to this link:
http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=A5bkmu3t5an2k
and this link:
http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=Bp9q8b5z4tsq4
From: Dan
Welcome welcome welcome welcome back!!!!!
From: Jennie
Hmmm...and it just so happens that 'Tragedy' is my favorite Bee Gees tune!
From: just-ice
anybody have any info on more west coast action? it seems highly unlikely that they would do only 1 concert in CA, but this is fishof we're dealing with here...
From: suzannetigger
yes I did LOL. So now everybody knows I have no life!
From: CT
I think its working now, cuz i was on there today and it looked like they had deleted the whole board and started over again. Gleeb, CT
From: Chris Coyle
Sue,
The Cd you have on the way was the forth album Mike recorded for RCA. His band had just slit up and only Red Rhodes his steel guitar player remained. Red also plays steel on The Monkees "Steam Engine".
Anyway, RCA told Mike they wanted more hits like "Joanne" which was a top 20 gold single for Mike. Mike's albums were selling less and less each record. So Mike titled this LP "And The Hits Just Keep On Coming" kinda a snide remark for RCA. This album only featured Mike and Red. Moving closeraway from counrty and more poetic. I think you will like... put on some low dimmed lights and sit back and listen.
Chris
From: jamie
I know he's the guy that you all have been emailing, but what exactly is he "supposed" to be doing for the Monkees? Noticed there were a lot of jokes about him not doing hardly anything for them. Is he just their representative or what?
From: suzannetigger
I totally gained my daughter's respect this past weekend while at a local Fiel days parade I pointed out to her the Tuba Players marching by in our local high school band and told her thats what your mother used to play when she marched in school band. She was awestruck and told me "You were tough Mom!"
From: jamie
I know he's the guy that you all have been emailing, but what exactly is he "supposed" to be doing for the Monkees? Noticed there were a lot of jokes about him not doing hardly anything for them. Is he just their representative or what?
From: Christi
Thanks for clearing that up. LOL
From: crazycatt
Hi.Any one going to either (or both!)the cape cod (7/13) or the FREE Boston concerts(7/14)???
From: Jennie
Well, all of them are my favorite (I'm so indecisive!) but since I was listening to 'Present' last night, I guess that's my current favorite. In a few days it will be a different one....
From: Julianna Michelle
(Haha, that's pretty punny. No tyme, No Time, get it? I crack myself up!) I meant.... no Tyme, don't go! I don't know how you feel about me, but it looks like Mark T. isn't comming back, so he can't single you out if he's not here. I don't think anyone else has ever picked you out specifically and ridiculed you, so there's really no reason to leave, is there? I just really really don't want everyone to leave. You'll be, the what? Like 7th or 8th person to leave. Too many!!! And your a fun gal, I wish you would stick around. (Please? :o) Your Monkee Bud, Amanda
From: Miss Blue Dork Stick
Oh my goodness! I just startled my dog awake after reading your song! I laughed so hard! I am glad to find this controversial stick so interesting. I LOVE reading what funny things might be said next! Keep em coming!
Peace Gleeb and Blue Dork Sticks! Christi
From: Julianna Michelle
Does anyone here know what ever happened to David Pearl? I mean, is he still good friends with Davy? And, what about Peter's first wife, Jody Babb? They got married in '64, but divorced the same year... What was that about? Just a fluke?
Legalize Frodis!!
From: suzannetigger
thanks for the references links and input Mark and Chris. Now I have just one more question for tonight. On Pieces album the song Cuddly Toy I really like Micky and Davy's harmonization but who is doing the background Ahhhhhs? Is it Peter and Mike? Boyce and Hart? some Unknowns? I really can't distinguish who's voices they are. Anybody know?
From: Jan in Myrtle Beach
Could